Of course the plants looked as bad in broad daylight as they did the other day at twilight. I didn't take any more pictures because I had left my phone inside and wanted to get it fixed immediately.
You see, the reason I went out there in the first place was that for some unknown reason, my hose has been running for a few days. That's right, my water bill is going to rival the national debt I'm certain. Crap. The reason for it is that I didn't turn off the spigot the last time I watered. I never turn it off, I rely on the nozzle to keep it from running since the spigot is on the other side of the house. Recall that I haven't completed bringing water to the garden, so dragging a hose around from the front yard to the back was the only practical solution. I've lived with it ever since. Well, somehow after I last watered, the water came on at the nozzle. I know I left it off, but somehow it came on. Apparently my wife heard something like water running over the last few days but dismissed it because I had her turn off the spigot when it froze. Major oops. Grrr.
In other news, I got an email from Territorial Seed Company today. Last I had communicated with them, they had said they would send me the list of Seminis seeds they are selling for 2009 when they got it, but I should email them back in the new year if they forgot. I had just thought about emailing them back in light of my post yesterday, and sure enough, I got the list. Here it is:
BNO28 Romano Gold
BN042 Liana OK533 Cajun Delight
BN045 Etna ON542 Mercury
BN059 Helda ON559 Candy
BR091 Packman PP663 Northstar
CF188 Cheddar PP673 Holy Mole
CN203 Seneca Horizon PP674 Gypsy
CN207 Passion PP684 Senorita
CR266 Thumbelina PP689 Big Bomb
CU294 Pearl PU727 Wyatt’s Wonder
CU295 Cool Breeze SQ792 Butterstick
CU302 Orient Express SQ797 Gold Rush
CU312 Babylon SQ798 Portofino
EG325 Dusky SQ804 Sungreen
EG332 Fairy Tale SQ825 Early Butternut
EG333 Twinkle SQ827 Ambercup
EG334 Hansel SQ831 Bush Delicata (Conv Only)
LT387 Esmeralda TM870 Celebrity
LT388 Simpson Elite TM871 Big Beef
LT400 Summertime TM885 Yellow Pear
ML456 Fastbreak TM896 Viva Italia
ML458 Pulsar TM924 Super Marzano
ML459 Earlidew TM938 Window Box Roma
ML463 Ambrosia WA989 Yellow Doll
The good news is out of 51 varieties they are selling from Monsanto, only one was I planning on purchasing. Unfortunately, there is no work around for Yellow Pear tomatoes. Grrr. What I don't understand though, is that I am certain I read that Monsanto owns Early Girl tomatoes and Red Sails lettuce, but it's not on their list. So I pinged them back to ask if they did business with any other company owned by Monsanto, like American Seeds (where they appear to have stuck all their acquisitions). They responded that they didn't do business with American Seeds. I may ping them back one more time to ask two questions that they left unanswered. 1) Do they sell any other varieties owned directly or indirectly by Monsanto? 2) Who owns Early Girl and Red Sails? I really like Red Sails look and taste, and Early Girl does so well here, even if it is a bit small.
I still need to get through the Territorial catalog and go through my seeds. It's huge for 2009. I don't think I need much, but I will probably order a decent amount. I also am seriously considering buying tomato seeds this year rather than plants. I would need a light set-up, but that's ok. I just need to figure something out. It will probably be a single shelf system because it needs to be in the heated section of my house. So it won't be anything like EG's redneck seed starter contraption, but it will work for my purposes. Therein lies a post for another day.
Enjoy your garden!
I'm kinda surprised that Monsanto/Seminis owns "Yellow Pear" tomato because it is an open-pollinated tomato. Maybe they (Territorial) are just buying the seed from Seminis as a "supplier"... but you should easily be able to get that seed in a trade from someone who has saved it themselves instead of having to buy it from Monsanto. I will check my seed stash and see if I have it.
ReplyDeleteI need to check and see what seeds are "Monsanto" -- I think there was a list on the Dervaes' website....
Well, it looks like they own over 2,500 varieties that they currently produce. Back in 1998, it seems they owned/produced over 6,000 varieties... so they've cut down by more than half of the varieties available just 10 years ago...
ReplyDeleteSo far I haven't found where they own the Yellow Pear tomato. They might though.... but since it is open-pollinated (and an heirloom from what I can tell) you can easily get it from someone who has grown this variety and saved the seed themselves.
I need to start looking into my seeds for 2009 as well. I'm hoping to purchase mostly heirloom to stay away from Monsato and to start being able to save my own seeds from year to year - doing away with the seed people all together.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it is strange, I didn't notice that Yellow Pear was OP. I swore all the ones on the list were hybrids myself. I just checked the catalog and sure enough, Yellow Pear isn't a hybrid. Go figure.
ReplyDeleteI wonder how you can "own" an open polinated plant? Does that mean everyone that's saved seeds from Yellow Pear in the past needs to send them back to Monsanto? Not likely going to happen.
Well, I don't have any of those varieties on my planting list, so...that's good. After reading your other post, I can see why you are so passionately against Monsanto.
ReplyDeleteAs far as my redneck seed starter, you don't need anything like that...just a good shelf with some adjustable lights. I'm gonna make a double decker out of the aquarium stand..hee hee.....
EG
Baker's Creek (rareseeds.com) carries yellow pear and they're pretty seriously anti-Monsanto. I can't imagine they're buying anything Monsanto has patented, so I'm wondering where you got the info that yellow pear is theirs? If you're not totally addicted to the yellow pear, I'd cheerfully mail you some black cherry tomato seeds (and free is a very good price...)
ReplyDeleteGreat list, I think I have Eggplant-Fairy Tale. That catalog is going in the garbage. I'm sticking to Baker Creek Heirloom.
ReplyDeleteMonsanto doesn't own Yellow pear, though it is possible to own property rights to OP varieties through Plant Variety Patents (PVPs). They are usually only found on newly bred varieties though as anything patent on a variety thats been around for a while has usually expired. Plenty of peas and lettuces (which are OP by nature) have PVPs on them.
ReplyDeleteMonsanto/Semenis is likely just a supplier of these seeds. Hybrids are much more likely to be "owned" as the companies are the ones who develop the inbred parent lines to create the hybrids. Here's where it gets even more confusing though and bear with me. It takes a lot of investment in time, research and money to develop the inbred parent lines that they cross to create the hybrids. So a LOT of companies simply lease the inbred lines from monsanto to create their hybrids. For some things, corn in particular, monsanto requires breeders using their lines to sign a document saying they will not test for GMO's on the parent stock. So in theory you could buy an organic hybrid seed in a catalogue bred by a seed company not owned by Monsanto that could be sourced and contaminated by Monsanto GMO's. Scary, no?
Fedco is the only Co I know of that tests all corn lots they sell for GMO's
Thanks for bearing with me.
Brian
Uprising Seeds